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Lori Ayre's avatar

This excerpt jumped out at me because I have always considered myself a generally positive and optimistic person. And I don't believe in free will (in the sense that everything we do depends on everything we've done before and so it is all predictable - not by us of course - but it was all going to happen just has it has happened). Anwyay, back to your excerpt:

"Perhaps, as both authors speculate via their very different paths, the human mind is fundamentally bent toward goodness, cooperation, and kindness but gets warped by unfortunate genetic combinations and an inhospitable environment. Must we continue to label this process “free will”? Should we continue to grind everyone down in the same joyless meritocracy, knowing that it’s based on an illusion of control?"

What a beautiful way to think about people, goodness, free will and luck. I have been very lucky. It is easy to be optimistic and positive when you are lucky. And easier to be empathetic about other's lack of luck if you don't ascribe it to a moral failure of some kind.

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javy's avatar

The most convincing argument for there being no free will I’ve read is that our thoughts and actions are the result of a long chain of prior causes, including our genes, upbringing, and current circumstances. We don't have ultimate control over these factors that shape our decisions. While we feel like we're making free choices, if we could replay a situation with identical conditions, we would make the same decision every time.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​ Though it’s difficult to parse our lived experience from the notion of no free will. I enjoyed your exploration on this difficult topic.

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